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There is, and long has been even since I joined the fangame community, a culture of suppressing originality when critiquing fangames and it's something that needs to stop.
-Popularity != quality. Hell popularity doesn't even mean popularity. While the production value of Boshy is high and it was incredibly popular when it came out, you'll find that the consensus amongst most people on the inside of the fangame community is that is absolutely sucks, while most of the attention it gets is from outside the community with it being featured on many popular youtubers accounts etc. Popularity ultimately means nothing when you're doing this as a hobby.
If you're talking about the platform jump, you don't need the platforms to beat it; just jump as late as possible and as high as you can without getting sucked up into the spikes by the platforms.
I'm happy with the decisions. And I understand why you don't wanna add a dislike feature, I was kinda mad only thinking about shit reviews.
Thanks TJ and Klazen! ( •ᴗ•)
As you may have noticed, there are 2 games called I Wanna be the 2.5625 and I wanna be the Extra Jump that have been added recently in Delicious Fruit and they're both impossible (I'm not saying the jumps mentioned are impossible, but they aren't built in the correct way to make them possible in the game).
I had thought of giving them a proper rating but I've realized there's no point in giving them a 100/100 difficulty rating since other people have rated them around 80-90/100 in difficulty and the games won't have a 100/100 difficulty (which is the difficulty rating they MUST have since they're impossible) after I (and people who would also rate it 100/100 in difficulty) post my reviews.
Players who are trying to look for some hard challenge and find games like this will waste hours on a game that is basically impossible and I'm sure they will be really mad when they realize the game is actually impossible and they will shit on the site because the difficulty rating says it isn't impossible when it is.
So, here's what I'd do to prevent this from happening: delete all the impossible games. There's no point in having impossible games in a site made for people who want to have fun playing these games. This way we will also prevent wrong ratings (there's a guy complaining about the 2 corners on I Wanna be the Extra Jump when they don't change anything in difficulty) and dumb ratings in general (mainly from people known as "happil 2 kids" or from just dumb people). I wouldn't delete games like LoveTrap, I Wanna break the Sky Needle, I Wanna challenge the Needle Fight, etc., though, since the impossible parts are in the extra part (which are obviously not required to beat the games).
Also, talking about ratings. People in general will most likely read the rating from a "big guy" first, ignoring the other ones when the "big guy's" rating might be wrong or not appropiate (I won't say names but it's not the first time that this happens). I know there's a "Like this review" button to make a rating more trustworthy, but I suggest adding a "Dislike this review" button since there are lots of reviews which aren't really reviews and most of them are posted by people who clearly have no idea about the game or they haven't beaten or even played the game in some cases.
Good luck with your new engine. Just as a heads up - new engines typically do not perform well in the community. There have been a few successes in the past, so best of luck in creating a popular fangame on a new engine!
To me a brand new engine shows innovation. The things that are possible for me to build in this engine are limitless and go way past what can be done in a simple program like game maker. I've already implemented a few gimmicks that have never been seen in game maker because it would be close to impossible to actually implement it. I think that the community would definitely support a game written in this new engine simply because it will be more than a fan game -- it in itself will be a full game both very similar and different than how standard IWBTG needle/adventure/puzzle/trap fangames are usually created.
For delicious-fruit, how about adding a real "top fangames" feature? It should be interesting for new players who don't know where to start. I know you can just go on the full fangame list page and sort by rating, but there are a few problems with that:
- it doesn't take into account the number of ratings per fangame, which means I can just rate any new fangame 10/10 and it'll end up first on the list
- the averages themselves don't take into account the "average rating" of people who reviewed it: for example, a 10/10 from someone who rates all his games 10/10 should weigh less than a 10/10 from someone whose rating average is around 5/10. A way to solve this problem is to use a formula like: average game rating = (sum of abs(user_x's game rating - user_x's average rating)*user_x's rating) / (sum of abs(user_x's game rating - user_x's average rating))
Will the submitted games list be made public so non-judges can play as well? I'd be curious to see how my own rankings match up with the judges'.When the results get posted, I will include links to the submitted games. There will be one that won't be included because of the author's request, but the rest will be present.
