Western Fangame Rankings [W-Level]

[lemonxreaper]

that is true, but to me I feel like the list should be well organised, easy to read and have useful information in order to be useful. Just throwing that idea out there in advance in the event in becomes too much of a clusterfuck.

[Kinata]

There's a lot I'd do to fix this list. I do have multiple ideas, and the suggestions on this thread so far have been good. The reason I haven't been updating this thread is because Sword and I have been trying to make a more accurate "starting place" for the list that will be better accustomed for our community before we get into the whole player feedback system, though that's been going slowly since I don't really have much free time anymore.

If I continue having as little free time as I have, I'll see if anyone else is willing to take over this list and give that person everyone that's been worked on so far.

[lemonxreaper]

Ratings for charr with and without red coin would be cool :3

[Kinata]

Don't worry, I made sure to include it. The new list is mostly in order; I'll post it soon. Then we'll let everyone post suggestions and whatnot.

[infern0man1]

For whenever you're ready to take suggestions: I'm seriously surprised that I Wanna End the Blood Festival wasn't on either of the lists, considering it was in Kamilia 2.

[Swordslinger]

4/8/2014 Update: Kinataknight is an extremely busy man so it's hard to discuss with him when i can, however @Infernoman1 I am ready to take suggestions from anybody, just send me a message on twitch with a list of games you want to see on there and I will see what strings i can pull, However Fake Games/Troll Games (Such as I Wanna Be The Booty, I Wanna Get My Daily dose, etc) will not be on this list.

Thank you for reading.

[Kinata]

If Star is able to do this, it would probably be helpful if Sword has permission to edit the OP. At this point, he is probably more in control of this then me, since, like he said, I don't have much time to be involved in this community anymore.

[Swordslinger]

Now that the list is updated, please post suggestions on what to put in, Infernoman1 i already got your request for blood festival and I will think about rating it.

[lemonxreaper]

Lv 90 : I Wanna be the Loner   [Clear]
Lv 90 : I Wanna be the Goner   [Clear]

these games are in no way on the same level, let alone with goner over loner. loner is like 50 times harder than goner

Needle master is also not harder than gentle needle, in reality needle master isnt even that bad. imo overrated now. especially seeing as that's where I would place i wanna 」.
hapil also shouldn't be listed because its not even possible, kamilia only did so as a joke.
the whole list is pretty much a mess in need of some serious tidying but those are the things that stood out to me.

[Swordslinger]

Lv 90 : I Wanna be the Loner   [Clear]
Lv 90 : I Wanna be the Goner   [Clear]

these games are in no way on the same level, let alone with goner over loner. loner is like 50 times harder than goner

Needle master is also not harder than gentle needle, in reality needle master isnt even that bad. imo overrated now. especially seeing as that's where I would place i wanna 」.
hapil also shouldn't be listed because its not even possible, kamilia only did so as a joke.
the whole list is pretty much a mess in need of some serious tidying but those are the things that stood out to me.

Goner will be lowered to 88, needle master will be lowered to 90,

I have not played Gentle Needle yet so i can't judge it.

as for happil 2 it will be removed.

Thank you for the suggestions

[Paragus]

Lv 53 : I Wanna Get Cultured [Clear] [No Difficult]
Lv 53 : I Wanna Get The Yellow Star [Medium]

What?   Where did you come up with this? Considering our game isn't out and only 3 people in total have played our game through to the end I'm wondering why our game is on the list and where this rating came from.  Yellow Star is a 15-20 minute long face roll game, and out of our 7 Stages of increasing difficulty, we put it into Stage 1.  Maybe you should take this off the list until you actually play it.

[Starz0r]

Lv 53 : I Wanna Get Cultured [Clear] [No Difficult]
Lv 53 : I Wanna Get The Yellow Star [Medium]

What?   Where did you come up with this? Considering our game isn't out and only 3 people in total have played our game through to the end I'm wondering why our game is on the list and where this rating came from.  Yellow Star is a 15-20 minute long face roll game, and out of our 7 Stages of increasing difficulty, we put it into Stage 1.  Maybe you should take this off the list until you actually play it.

Lol. While your game may be easy I don't think it is 'that' easy. Get Cultured is around a 2 hour game while Yellow Star is something that can be cleared in under 30 minutes.

Lv 62 : I Wanna Get Cultured [Clear] [No Difficult]

This sounds better.

[Paragus]

Lv 53 : I Wanna Get Cultured [Clear] [No Difficult]
Lv 53 : I Wanna Get The Yellow Star [Medium]

What?   Where did you come up with this? Considering our game isn't out and only 3 people in total have played our game through to the end I'm wondering why our game is on the list and where this rating came from.  Yellow Star is a 15-20 minute long face roll game, and out of our 7 Stages of increasing difficulty, we put it into Stage 1.  Maybe you should take this off the list until you actually play it.

Lol. While your game may be easy I don't think it is 'that' easy. Get Cultured is around a 2 hour game while Yellow Star is something that can be cleared in under 30 minutes.

Lv 62 : I Wanna Get Cultured [Clear] [No Difficult]

This sounds better.

I don't have a lot of time to study the list to make a judgement on where it should be, but I noticed....

Lv 68 : I Wanna Celebrate 100 [Medium]

Our game is definitely harder than this one.

[Swordslinger]

Lv 53 : I Wanna Get Cultured [Clear] [No Difficult]
Lv 53 : I Wanna Get The Yellow Star [Medium]

What?   Where did you come up with this? Considering our game isn't out and only 3 people in total have played our game through to the end I'm wondering why our game is on the list and where this rating came from.  Yellow Star is a 15-20 minute long face roll game, and out of our 7 Stages of increasing difficulty, we put it into Stage 1.  Maybe you should take this off the list until you actually play it.

Considering that the game is not out yet, that does not mean I can just give Kinata a link to one of your old streams of you playing the game all the way through, our discussion was like, 2 hours long, thoughts were being thrown around, However do not expect the game modes on this list, there are way too many and it feels as if cultured would take over the entire list.  The rooms were analyzed and talked about so the ball was rolling a lot, this is how unreleased games will be talked about, just find a video or a stream and go back and watch it, if I could go back and watch You's stream of him play testing his new game, that would be on this list too considering that he makes some of the best avoidance out there. (XX, Flower of Sorrow, OD, TC, etc)

As for Celebrate 100, there are some harder saves in it and not to mention, a few annoying bosses, I think i would find the game harder then cultured around the floor 60's, since those saves are very long.

I did not add difficult on the list mainly because it's unfinished, the normal mode pretty much is, why was Kamilia 3 on M level before it was released? No one has even played the game except for the testers, which your game has some, if you want me to rethink the level i will ask Stinkycheese but other then that, I think it's staying right there.

I will think about it, like i said i may ask stinkycheese, but at this point i'm not sure if I should move it or not. Cultured as it is now, if the original areas stayed as they were in the older updates, this game would be much higher on the list. I will talk with thwink2 or casualcrap later since i invited them to work on this list and for the fact that they're very experienced players.

This is all i can say at this point.
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@Kinata 70's would be taking the game way too far, maybe 60 or 61 might work?

[Kinata]

Lv 53 : I Wanna Get Cultured [Clear] [No Difficult]
Lv 53 : I Wanna Get The Yellow Star [Medium]

What?   Where did you come up with this? Considering our game isn't out and only 3 people in total have played our game through to the end I'm wondering why our game is on the list and where this rating came from.  Yellow Star is a 15-20 minute long face roll game, and out of our 7 Stages of increasing difficulty, we put it into Stage 1.  Maybe you should take this off the list until you actually play it.

Ratings for mostly completed games that aren't yet released are often included if it's a game that is expected to be popular and that people will be curious about. Due to the difficulty at the end of the game, I'm inclined to say the ranking should be raised to lower or mid 60's.