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The Wannabes auto hosting discussion
Wolsk:
1) Remove inactive members
Keep in mind that this has been tried before and was an ABSOLUTE MESS. Last time it happened, I got removed after not streaming for 2 weeks and did not receive any message regarding it. I think this can be done properly and should be done, but more thought and time is going to have to be put into it this time around.
2) Increase the requirements to get in the team
As others have mentioned, this is mostly an exclusivity issue. Since Den defined it as "isn't brand new to fangames and doesn't have an ugly stream," we now know the kinds of people allowed. However, I would still recommend discussing new additions to the team more rather than taking care of the applications by yourself. The "vouching" process that Ciaran described would be good.
3) Remove members who no longer meet the requirements
Again, this will take a lot of thought, discussion, and time. This kind of stuff isn't easy to do and could be extremely detrimental to the team if not handled properly. That being said, I agree that it should be done.
4) Require english to be the broadcaster language
No special opinion here. I agree that more language variety is good, but English should still be the primary one.
5) Require the broadcaster to not have a follower alert
I'm sure some people were eagerly awaiting my response to this as the only person in the team still with a follower alert. I get that you don't like them, Den, and most people don't, but you really can't tell someone how to run their stream. You tried this same thing before by saying that you cannot join the team if you look at your viewercount while streaming. Explaining the negative effects of things like using follower alerts or calling out lurkers or watching your viewercount is enough, and then it's up to the streamer to do what they want with that information. Doing/having these may work for some streamers even if it doesn't work for everyone. HOWEVER, I do understand the negatives of using the alert, and at this point mine has way overstayed its welcome as something that was just supposed to be a joke. This just gives me a reason to finally go back to not having one. I will remove mine, but do not make it something you're forced to do in order to be on the team.
6) Every member in the team would be required to enable auto hosting feature
This part I'm very much on the fence about. On one hand, conformity with a change like this could strengthen the bonds in our team, but on the other hand, there are still members who don't want big chats and don't want a ton of recognition (which was made very apparent during FGM if you remember). I'm kind of leaning towards forcing its use because then no one is allowed to distance themself, but I would like to see opinions from the more reclusive members of our team.
And what BBF_ asked about hosting is something I was also wondering about. It wasn't answered in the blog post, so it'd be great if someone here knows and could shed some light on it:
--- Quote from: BBF on September 28, 2016, 02:44:48 PM ---A question about the auto-hosting: How does it choose what member of the team gets hosted if several are streaming? This could lead to some very unfavorable situations if two or more members happen to stream at the same time frequently, while only one gets all the hosts (if it depends on viewer count, follower count or whatever).
--- End quote ---
*EDIT* We should definitely hold off on using auto-host for now, though, because it is a new feature on Twitch which means it will be horribly buggy and broken. Apparently auto-host kicks on if you keep dropping frames, and I'm sure it does the same if your internet completely dies for a bit too long. Would be really annoying to deal with.
Swordslinger:
I didn't read the blog on autohosting so i'm kinda in the dark here, but this may add onto Bbf's previous question, is can you control who gets autohosted, if you can this might be a feature and rule i'd be willing to follow and if not then will, the opposite effect will take place on my end. I'm full willing to do this but I really would like to control who gets hosted, adding onto what wolsk said some of us would like to distance ourselves from others or just distance ourselves in general, that's the only thing i'm skeptical about with this feature, if the answer is confirmed the answer will vary my actions on this rule.
Denferok:
Alright I guess I should've edited the OP earlier instead of expecting people to read through all the posts before posting, my bad!
Anyways, I updated the OP, let me know what you think of the new suggestions
Onynekyu:
I have a suggestion, since the team tends for improvements, the idea of using a discord server came in my mind. It is not a VIP discord server, but more like an organisation discord server. (Like fangame marathon discord server).
Let me explain, when i read opinions about "Removal of inactive members" part, it seems to be fair to deal with them case by case. Then you agree to accept them whenever they are active again. And by doing so, the team is looking for more interactivities, more reactivities, short time responses (this is what it looks like for me). That's why i suggest discord, since it is a powerful tool (and friendly user) which provides you these features, plus it gives you more visibility (who are the moderators), and pinged private messages (unlike twitch).
Let me illustrate this:
* For team membersThey can informe the team and moderators about their stream. For example : "Sorry, i won't stream for X amount of time because [reasons], but i will be back". Or "@moderator, can you remove me from the stream ? Because [reason]". Plus, if an inactive member is on the discord server, his re-application is easier.
* For team moderatorsIt is easier for them to contact and send messages or warnings to members via pm, and by doing this, this is more professionally made. It could prevent some problems like Wolsk's. For example (via pm): "Hello, we haven't see you streaming for a while, do you plan to stream again ?". Or "Be careful, we notice you are not streaming a lot of fangames on your stream. Dont forget the team mainly provides fangames stream"
If you like this idea, it could become a requirement (just giving some ideas here):
- Must be on team discord server
- Must use discord
Hoping it will help you :atkHappy:
larsral1:
Alright so i read through alot of the replies and gave everything some thought myself, and as a member who will probably get kicked for inactivity(i don't really stream often anymore, and haven't streamed fangames in a long time except 3 days in a row a couple weeks ago) i thought it could be nice to give some input.
One of the things i thought about is the thing about stuff like follower alerts. No indeed you cannot tell people the way they need to stream BUT as a team you can make the decision to ban follower alerts, personally i don't use them but i don't really mind it too much if streams use them, since i rarely encounter them.
Remove inactive/ people who don't stream fangames anymore:
I definetely think this should happen. i looked through the list of people on the team and i think that more than half i've never seen stream, or atleast not in the last few months, but ofcourse there could be people who only stream at times i'm asleep, so that number could be smaller. I definetely think that this should go through though. But the reapplying thing of kicked members being isntantly accepted i'm not sure about. I feel like this would be good but that you would need to make sure that they are actually serious about picking up streaming again and don't rejoin for a couple days and then stop streaming again.
English language for streamers:
I think it is definetely a must to use english. Sure i don't mind if people use multiple languages but they should atleast also use english and not only the other language.
The enforcing of autohosting:
Again, as a team you can make the decision to do this. I really don't think it's that big of a deal. I really don't see any good reason to not do this. Ofcourse there might be people who don't like it, but as a team you can just have set rules, if people don't like them they can also just join another team.
Different requirements:
I really think this point is too vague, semi-known is just too unclear so i can't really say much about this, but i do agree that people who have only been in the fangame community for a week shouldn't be allowed to join yet.
Remove members who no longer meet the requirements:
I don't see how people could all of a sudden not meet requirements anymore unless it's being inactive.
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