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The Wannabes auto hosting discussion

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zebbe94:
Auto hosting is an interesting thing that is nice for people that want to use it. I don't mind it being encouraged but I am against forcing it on people to be a part of the team, it should be your own choice if you want to use it. On that note, hosting each other is something The Wannabes has always been good at, both for larger and smaller streamers. In the end it's the "end of stream" hosts that really make an impact, and that is something I think we are already excellent at.

On the topic of removing inactive members from the team. It's not something that I'm against but I guess it could be a bit tricky to say exactly what inactive means. Take Geezer as an example, sometimes it can be months between his streams and other times he streams every single day. I know people that used to stream a lot that now only streams occasionally. Some people only stream a few times a month. Personally I haven't really streamed much lately because studying takes a lot of my time, but I do try to stream occasionally if I got time. And I feel kinda the same as what Patrick said, I don't mind being taken off knowing I could get added back whenever I get back into streaming a bit more again.

I dunno about increasing the requirements. I guess it depends if you want the team to be exclusive to the "best" fangame streamers or if you want it to be more open for people that has a decent stream that mainly stream fangames. Personally I would have the requirements be something like:
-Fangames are the main attraction of your stream.
-You have some experience playing fangames.
-You have some experience with streaming.
-You have a decent quality on your stream (as in don't capture your whole desktop with your tiny fangame in the middle, don't have your computer audio played trough your mic and stupid things like that.)
-You have some experience with the fangame community (You know about essential fangame sites like the wiki, delfruit, the forums etc. You interact with the community in some way/s, for example: Watching and chatting in fangame streams, interact on the forums or in the community discord or maybe you made a fangame or something)

Remove members who no longer meet the requirements? I have a hard time seeing how someone could no longer meet the requirements unless they are drastically changed from what they are now. (Other than inactive people.)

I wouldn't say force english broadcast language on your streams but I would say if you cannot speak english then you can't really interact much with our community. As TJ said, I don't mind dual language streams as long as it's possible to interact with the streamer in english.

The follower alert is something that I don't particularly enjoy but I do think that some streamer can make it work ok-ish. I don't think it should be a requirement to be part of the team though, I think you should be able to run your stream as you want.

edit: I see Den clarified some of the things I mentioned while I was writing this. Also for TJ and others that may be wondering about the auto host thing, look here: https://i.imgur.com/kdl51eB.png

Denferok:
Fair enough TJ, I guess discouraging the follower alerts is enough to make those who use it rethink. I personally just have a deep hatred for them and I don't like hosting channels with them. And zebbe, those requirements you listed was basically what I was going for, and there are definitely people who don't live up to those as of right now. Because I basically handle applications on my own, I don't even know if you guys notice when new members are added.

About inactive members, I mostly just mean those who are "dead". If you wanna take a month off streaming, that's fine and you shouldn't feel stressed out about streaming. I don't want anyone to feel forced to stream just because they don't want to be removed. Basically as long as you still "exist" in the community then a removal wouldn't be necessary.

zebbe94:

--- Quote from: Denferok on September 28, 2016, 05:41:39 PM ---Fair enough TJ, I guess discouraging the follower alerts is enough to make those who use it rethink. I personally just have a deep hatred for them and I don't like hosting channels with them. And zebbe, those requirements you listed was basically what I was going for, and there are definitely people who don't live up to those as of right now. Because I basically handle applications on my own, I don't even know if you guys notice when new members are added.

About inactive members, I mostly just mean those who are "dead". If you wanna take a month off streaming, that's fine and you shouldn't feel stressed out about streaming. I don't want anyone to feel forced to stream just because they don't want to be removed. Basically as long as you still "exist" in the community then a removal wouldn't be necessary.

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Hmm, I guess maybe I don't know about all newly added members. And thanks for clarifying about inactive members.

ciaran:

Here are my thoughts on things.

Follower alerts in general from what I've seen are quite in your face and can cover up a lot of the stream.
This can get particularly annoying during fangames, especially with audio alerts. Something subtle like a "ping" and small piece of text on stream wouldn't be too bad, however an outright ban on them is fair enough. You'll definitely get noticed by chatting in streams, which brings me to my next point.


I feel like if you're going to add someone to the team, have idk, for arguments sake say 3 current team members who know this new applicant and who can say "Yeah I know this user, they seem cool and would be a good addition to the team" because if you're going to join a team, at least be familiar with a few of the members of said team. It'll make breaking the ice with the rest of the team members a lot easier.


As for stream layouts and experience, you want viewers to come back to your stream so stream scenes have to look nice and non-tacky.
Minimal layouts tend to go down well.


Regarding the point on stream experience, I think you should have a mic at least. Camera is totally optional, I've seen streams both benefit from adding one and removing one, it's up to whatever the streamer is most comfortable with.


Having a re-application form for former members is also a good idea. We all need a break, sometimes more extended than others. Sometimes life gets in the way, sometimes they lose their spark but it can always come back.

aytoms29:
For the most part I agree with all of these reasons, one of my only problems would be removing follower alerts.

For many small streams follower alerts are something that they use to interact with a stream. Of course there are some really really bad ones that take up a ton of space, but there are also some really nice small follower alerts that take up little space and don't really do anything to the stream. A good follower alert example would be peekingboo's stream (He has one of the best stream layouts I have ever seen, especially for his viewer count). His follower alert pops up in a tiny space unoccupied by any camera, in tiny font and it causes the stream mascot at the bottom of the screen to grow a tiny bit.

It's something that isn't obnoxious and gives the streamer a way to interact with a viewer for a short time even though you usually don't notice it. These follower alerts usually help a stream look a bit better and gain a few more viewers. Of course some people will disagree, but if a follower alert can be small and go unnoticed it shouldn't need a ban.

Another thing I can kinda disagree with is probably having only English for the team, some points have already been made about this which I can agree with.

As long as the streamer can speak English well enough to communicate he shouldn't be banned. This could help people get better at English who come from non-English speaking backgrounds. Of course the stream needs to speak English as the language mainly spoken, but having some other languages can be fun.

Edit: I think the auto-hosting should be trialed by somebody before we start using it.

Thanks!

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