Kamilia: hello
Starz0r: hai
Ratko: yo
Ratko: you added me on facebook
Kamilia: again pls
Ratko: i'm here to interprete what kamilia wants to tell you now
Starz0r: what is that?
Ratko: i just heard you guys are talking about modification
Ratko: it's not about to say no to modify games for fun.
Ratko: but
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Ratko: you have to understand how people from different country insist about the action.
Ratko: so i think that we should refrain from registering the games on open community in which everyone can see.
Starz0r: My forum isn't really, how you say, that public
Starz0r: we only have so many members
Starz0r: around 160
Starz0r: and 1/6 is spambots
Ratko: this is now, but you don't know about the future in community
Ratko: you know you are promoting your forum through doruppi.
Starz0r: sorry bad internet
Ratko: also, there are a lot of people knowing about modification morethan population in the forum
Ratko: and some of japanese producers mentioned they would stop making the game since they realized the situation.
Kamilia: ok
Ratko: it's hard to contact just because of the language problem.
Ratko: and also the cultures.
Starz0r: Why won't anti-decompiler help
Starz0r: I mean
Starz0r: Kamilia 2 and 3 have it
Ratko: what do you mean there are anti-decompiler helping kamilia 2 and 3?
Starz0r: well
Starz0r: it curtainly stopped people from
Starz0r: decompiling it
Starz0r: and copying it
Starz0r: even thought
Starz0r: anti-decompiler doesn't fix the problem completly
Starz0r: some people can still
Starz0r: recompile
Starz0r: fairly easily in that sense
Starz0r: I have many friends who can break the protection
Starz0r: I do understand the risk of decompile and modification
Starz0r: but most mods are to
Starz0r: fix problems such as repeating music
Starz0r: and
Starz0r: standard iwbtg sprites
Starz0r: or tilesets
Starz0r: yes
Starz0r: not many people do not understand how to break it
Starz0r: Decompiling doesn't fix anyproblem I guess
Starz0r: I see
Ratko: we already realize stopping them is impossible.
Starz0r: most people will decompile
Starz0r: most people will share the gmk from the decompiler
Starz0r: most people will mod and share it
sunbla: sorry i was busy. if its really a problem with the mod i can make it private
Starz0r: deleting the board on the forum will do nothing
Ratko: but it's not only anti decompiler but also decomplier people are not really aware of.
sunbla: i dont want any trouble. we just made that mod for pure fun. with full credit to the creator
sunbla: i like and know a lot of the japanese creators and they are very nice
Ratko: did you guys try to contact to the producers to get a permission?
Starz0r: Most of the time no
sunbla: i have no idea who made meteor stream sorry:(
Starz0r: there is probably one mod that was there that the creator allowed us to make
sunbla: otherwise i would
Starz0r: But he soon fix it himself
Starz0r: I can't contact all japanese fangame creators to fix mistakes
Ratko: i understand
Starz0r: That is why mods exists
Starz0r: to fix things that the orginal creator didn't do
sunbla: ratko you mean the meteor stream mod right now i think?
Ratko: i have no idea.
sunbla: (worry)
Ratko: i'm here to interprete the conversation here.
sunbla: oh ok
sunbla: to be really honest. i am totally against modifications on normal games. like changing hitboxes or level design or boss hitpoints
Ratko: kamilia suggests!
Ratko: that
Ratko: he wants you stop registering the games you modded for fun but it is okay to share on skype.
Starz0r: hm
Ratko: how about that
sunbla: okay it is fine for me
Starz0r: I guess that is fine
sunbla: i didnt mean it offensive in any way
Starz0r: I will have to notify the forum of this change
sunbla: you can tell that kamilia
Starz0r: Well
Starz0r: If you think the size of the community is small
Starz0r: you can advertise it on twitter
Starz0r: And have more people join
Starz0r: we have more advance conversations
Starz0r: like guides on completing jumps
Ratko: he is not talking about the size of the forum
Ratko: he is talking about the biggest problem we have now
Starz0r: Which is?
Ratko: that the modded version has been exposed on open forum.
Ratko: without producers's awareness
Ratko: and i don't recommend you to google the korean words.
Ratko: google translation sucks.
sunbla: https:fangamecommunity.x10host.com/forum/index.php?topic=363.msg2234#msg2234 fixed
Starz0r: idk it seems pretty good
Ratko: if you really mean to respect the original producer i think you should delete the post.
Ratko: if the size of the coummunity is small then why don't you share the game to people you know on skype.
Ratko: i'm probably sure you know a lot of them and have them on skype.
Ratko: the biggest reason why the post must be deleted is that we don't want to let people know the word "..
Starz0r: we have contests
Starz0r: and awards for clearning curtain fangames
Starz0r: We also have a korean only board
Starz0r: https:fangamecommunity.x10host.com/forum/index.php?board=34.0
Ratko: actually
Ratko: kamilia joined already
Ratko: and also posted
Starz0r: yes
Starz0r: I was actually talking about you Ratko
Ratko: oh
Ratko: me
Ratko: i'm not really a i wanna player or producer even though i helped opening up international i wanna fangame match with gukka for twice.
Ratko: and the thing that i can no long help you guys is
Ratko: i will join the millitary service in korea in a week.
Ratko: ane will spend time for 2 years.
Ratko: anyway
Ratko: i will join the forum too
Ratko: good luck man
Ratko: are you sure is it gone
Ratko: To me and japanese people, it is positive to mod for private fun but negative for being public.
Ratko: i hope you to explain this to the other people in your forum or else.
Ratko: please.
Ratko: you know decompiler and anti-decompiler are not really public. and
Ratko: if these are being continuosly opened, people from different countries might wanna modify and fix.
Ratko: and this will be the problem because
Ratko: i mean if the games are gone to wiki beyond the community.
Ratko: alright
Ratko: we are done talking.
Kamilia: thx
Kamilia:
Ratko: if you have some words to kamilia or japanese producers
Ratko: you may say it here.
sunbla: well just sorry if someone understood it wrong. i really respect every fangame creator
Ratko: thanks
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