RNG in avoidance. Doing it RIGHT.

[Wolsk]

The problem is that it doesn't exactly relate to this thread.

[zaphod77]

easy miku 2 insanest rng in the world fam

Already finally beat that.

Having attacks that only throw something truly hard 25% of the time isn't fun.
TO get better i need to deal with ones that throw hard stuff at you nearly 100% of the time.

And one attack can very definitely wall you in. the descending big red cherry has random spam which is difficult about 1/3rd of the time, but also shoots an unaimed circle, which can sometimes fill in ALL the gaps.  Backing off to the right far enough to get through regardless opens you up to getting stabbed with a negi in the back.

Managed to figure out that the exploding rainbow cherries are actually dependent on your position, and not random at all by watching the screen after death. explains why they seemed fair.  Probably one of the best easy patterns i've seen.  Always doable but trickier then it looks.  strangely enough the negi shower looks like it could screw someone over with a dense cluster, but it's NEVER killed me.

[infern0man1]

The problem is that it doesn't exactly relate to this thread.

And I was referring to the discussion on GENKI's final boss, not to what this thread was originally about, which I haven't barred and won't bar other members from discussing.

[Sudnep]

On a serious note. what ones should actually be played to get good?  I'm not saying the easiest. but the ones tha twill actually drill into you how to play.

https://delicious-fruit.com/ratings/game_details.php?id=11725

[zaphod77]

Anyone who thinks that easy miku2 had insane RNG hasn't played this game.

In fact it appears to have an RNG from the deepest pits of heck.  I can't count the number of time's i've died a few milliseconds before the projectiles changed direction.   Sure seems to happen way more often then chance would suggest.

[BaronBlade]

If you want a less ridiculously hard recommendation, I'd look into playing Spinal Fluid, although that does have some weird pattern stuff at the beginning.

[lawatson]

Not Another Magic Tower Game is pretty fun so far, although it does get pretty damn hard. If you play it, do beware that softlocking is easy if you aren't careful.

[zaphod77]

If you want a less ridiculously hard recommendation, I'd look into playing Spinal Fluid, although that does have some weird pattern stuff at the beginning.

if i can even get to the boss. i'm completely stuck at save number three. i can pass the first jump maybe one in 50. and i'm expected to do it twice in a row?

I can see no trick to it, just what looks like frame perfect timing.

[BaronBlade]

If you want a less ridiculously hard recommendation, I'd look into playing Spinal Fluid, although that does have some weird pattern stuff at the beginning.

if i can even get to the boss. i'm completely stuck at save number three. i can pass the first jump maybe one in 50. and i'm expected to do it twice in a row?

I can see no trick to it, just what looks like frame perfect timing.

The trick to f jumps is getting as close to the edge as you can, doing a gate jump, then turning around. It's not as precise as it seems, although the timing can be tough to learn.

[infern0man1]

Yeah, while F-jumps can be difficult for newer players, they really aren't as frame perfect as they may seem. Now, if you want to see what a frame perfect jump actually looks like:

[zaphod77]

I passed the first one by save jumping. then got past the second one. now i have that 4 points inward to snake through. Even knowing what i'm supposed to do (use the space above to align myself to the wall, jump in midair to slow down, then weave through it. i did it ONCE and stupidly blundered into the spike afterwards. trying the top doesn't do any better once i get over the wall, so i've made up my mind to try the low road. at least the save is right there and the stuff after doesn't seem so bad.

And yes i was using perfect alignment on the earlier screen too.

[zaphod77]

There's a descending big cherry which spews out random cherries in all directions. near the bottom of the drop it also shoots out a circle. once in a while the random spam fills in ALL the gaps in the circle and you get smashed.

I didn't really classify anything else as impossible. just that the difficulty range of the patters was all over the place, ranging from "stand still" to "omg, gotta act fast... GAME OVER PRESS R TO TRY AGAIN". Easy Miku 1 was different, and let you box yourself in through your own mistakes quite easily.

Note that my advice doesn't always men to make it easier. i's possible to cleverly ensure that something nasty but possible is thrown at you, bu you won't know when it is.

[tehjman1993]

use gaussian distribution, that's a nice probability-based technique to "focus" RNG around a point.

 

[Kyir]

They don't call him T "hot for math" J for nothing.

[3-headed monkey]

damn Gauss, it's not enough to make my life a misery in my maths degree, now he's going to persecute me with delicious fruit as well.