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Sandsky0

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I wanna pass the spike
« on: August 12, 2013, 06:39:04 PM »
This game is now extremely easy after getting used to jump cancelling, it looks near impossible without it

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 08:14:59 PM »
How to do jump cancelling?
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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 08:50:00 PM »
How to do jump cancelling?


dat grammer
but yes. how do you jump cancel.
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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 08:51:02 PM »
It involves pressing... SHIFT!

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 08:56:11 PM »
^ It involves kicking your ass.  :SwiftRage:
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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 10:34:34 PM »
How to do jump cancelling?

ok this is assuming you're using right shift and left shift
hold right shift while on the ground
let go and 1 frame later hit left shift

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 03:39:58 AM »
hooray I found something useful \:Kappa:/

Sandsky0

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 05:33:42 AM »
How to do jump cancelling?

ok this is assuming you're using right shift and left shift
hold right shift while on the ground
let go and 1 frame later hit left shift

opposite :p, i hold left shift and jump 1 frame later with the right shift while using my middle/ring finger to move on the arrow keys, kind of weird to get used to, but it's really helpful  :OneHand:

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 08:22:26 AM »
you didnt find that denferok. that method has been in the japanese/korean community forever. the first ones who used it in twitch/youtube community were ultragamer then zero and kinata

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 08:23:29 AM »
you didnt find that denferok. that method has been in the japanese/korean community forever. the first ones who used it in twitch/youtube community were ultragamer then zero and kinata

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 09:06:19 AM »
o.... :Kappa:

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2013, 06:03:32 PM »
you didnt find that denferok. that method has been in the japanese/korean community forever. the first ones who used it in twitch/youtube community were ultragamer then zero and kinata

How aware of this are the Asians? The only fangame I know of requiring jump canceling is Insanity Ultimate, though it's very helpful in fangames that require 1 frame jumps like Pass the Spike.

I'm not good at jump cancelling but I've done a lot of testing to see how it works on a frame-by-frame level. For single jumps, it happens when you press shift, let go of shift, and press it again the same frame. The size of the jump cancel depends on how much later you let go of shift again, but it doesn't work if you let it go again in the same frame. Therefore, the smallest jump cancel occurs if you let it go the next frame. If you let it go then or the frame after that, your head will go less than a tile above ground, so you can jump right under spikes.

For double jumps, a jump cancel can actually be done on any size jump at any point between letting go of shift and reaching peak height. By pressing and releasing shift again, you will slow the kid's ascent (it's an exploit in the programming). In fact, a double jump can be canceled twice if you jump cancel for two consecutive frames. The tiniest possible jump in the engine is when you double cancel a 1 frame double jump (i.e., press and release shift for 3 frames in a row): it's only 3.6 pixels.

Note that platform jumping and water jumping works like single jumps due the possibility of more jumps.

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 06:36:46 PM »
So in order to jump directly under a spike you have to do a jump cancel and a legitimate 1 frame jump at once?
I mean hold jump1 -> release jump1 ->(next frame) press jump2 ->(next frame) release jump2.
Or did I get something wrong?
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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 08:25:03 PM »
Close.

Frame 1: Press jump1 -> release jump1 - > press jump2
Frame 2: Release jump2 (again, the release of jump2 doesn't have to be immediate, but the jump is shorter if it is. If you don't release until frame 4 or later, you will hit the spike above).

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Re: I wanna pass the spike
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2013, 03:26:43 PM »
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How aware of this are the Asians? The only fangame I know of requiring jump canceling is Insanity Ultimate, though it's very helpful in fangames that require 1 frame jumps like Pass the Spike.
Well that and Butterfly Nova.
In a way you might be able to claim that some other games like celty and black needle also require this but that is unintentional as far as I can tell.  :Kappa:
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