Edit 1: Klazen was kind enough to create a suggestion page:
https://klazen.com/IWBTG/bingo/suggest.phpIf you have an idea of a goal, but can't test it, post it here!
Edit 2: The first 100 goals are in the database
!
Good guy Klazen set up a public site to keep you guys updated of how many
and which goals are already part of the bingo. So if you want to check if a
certain game is already in it or not then visit this site:
https://klazen.com/IWBTG/bingo/Edit 3: Just want to let you guys know that the project is not dead! I was running out of good games and
I was waiting for good new releases.
Also I want to overhaul the system a bit. I want to abandon the idea of Avoidance and Needle cards. Just because
it's too hard for me to balance these cards. Also there are not enough decent needle and avoidance games
I can pull off goals from which would fit into the BINGO.
The idea is to keep the Mix cards tho, but having fix numbers for the amount of avoidance and needle goals in one
Mix Card. That means that every Row and Column in one Mix Cards will consist of 3 Adventure typ / 1 Needle typ / 1 Avoidance typ
goal. To have a bit of variety I want for every difficulty AT LEAST 10 different Needle and avoidance goals.
This means overall 30 or more different Needle/Avoidance goals. I just have to talk with Klazen and check if it's possible to realize that
(which shouldn't be much of a deal for him)
The adventure cards won't get any changes.
I hope I can motivate you one more time to being productive and suggest some goals, we're close to finishing this!
[Main post]Hey guys,
like maybe some of you noticed, the racing attitude in our community is pretty much at 0
since a few weeks/months which makes me kinda sad. I had back then an idea to make
racing a bit more attractive but I was not able to realize that idea by myself.
Luckily based Klazen has joined our community who brings a lot of programing skills with him.
We had a nice discussion and came to the conclusion to realize the idea I had a while back.
So what is this idea anyway?
If some of you follow the Zelda:OoT or Majoras Mask scene, you should know the term
"Bingo Race".
Yea, that's right, I'm planning to combine Fangames with Bingo Races.
What's a Bingo Race?
In a Bingo Race you get a card given with random 25 goals on it. The card itself is defined either as an small, medium or large card.
The size doesn't determine how many goals are on the card, it defines how long it takes in general to accomplish a goal on this card.
In terms of Zelda a card can look like that:
https://gyazo.com/1d4dcbe97dd0e29d094aeabfb0a7d34bNow before the Race starts you choose a Row or Column from this card with 5 goals in it. When the Race starts,
every participant tries to finish his 5 goals as fast as he can to win the race.
Of course this system is a bit more complicated in terms of fangames, because every fangame is kinda unique and
special in its own way.
That's why we will have different categories for our cards. These categories are:
-Avoidance Cards
Every goal on this card will be related to an avoidance boss. We're thinking right now to provide save files for certain games
to be able to choose of an bigger range of bosses.
-Needle Cards
Goals of this card will throw you into a needle game. Goals can be something like "Beat Game x",
"Beat Screen y in Game x" or "Reach save z in Game x".
-Adventure Cards
These goals will throw you into a more "normal" Fangame, like for example "I wanna be the 8 bit".
Goals can be like "Beat Game X", "Get Secret Y in Game x" or "Beat Stage Z in Game X".
-Mix Card
This Card will contain Goals from other categories. So prepare you ass
Beside the category you will be also able to choose between a Short Card, a Medium card or a large Card.
A short card race should take between 30-60 minutes.
A medium card race between 1-2 hours and a large card race 3+ hours.
That doesn't mean that the Goals on the Large card are way harder than on a short card. They can contain maybe harder goals,
but the length of the race will be more determined of the content you have to go through than of the difficulty of the game.
For example, if "I wanna be the Galaxy" has a goal on a short card which says "Beat Boss 1", the game could have also a Goal
on a large card which says "Collect 10 Stars". So the difficulty of the goals are more or less the same, but you will have way more content
to play through on a large card.
So why is the title of this Thread now "Community Project"? Because I need you guys to help me!
Right now 9 people including me are working on this project. Klazen already setup the system and the Database for all goals. All we need now are goals to fill the Cards!
I created groups for every category with experienced
players of every category in them which are trying to find goals for the Bingo Cards.
But I want to give everyone the chance to work with us and try to find goals for this project.
So if you're intrested into this and want to help, here a few guidelines you should follow to find a good goal:
>>>>In general<<<<
-Short goals should take around 10-15 minutes to finish.
-Medium goals should take around 20-25 Minutes to finish.
-Large goals should take around 30-45 Minutes to finish.
(These times should not be achieveable by only Speedrunners, also by maybe blind/second playthroughs)
-Test the goal by yourself! If it takes too long or its even too short, scrap it!
-A public download link should be avaible to the picked game
(no private games!)>>>>Avoidance goals<<<<
-Goals HAVE TO consist of killing a certain avoidance boss. Something like "reach minute x" won't be accepted.
-Also consider avoidance fights which are further into the game. We are thinking of providing save files for these bosses.
-Don't submit bosses which are "Super RNG Hell"
>>>>Needle goals<<<<
-Don't submit goals/games which requires jump canceling or 1 frame jumping.
-Goals can consist of reaching a certain save or beating certain screens in a needle game.
-Don't use games which are only playable by elitist needle players.
>>>>Adventure goals<<<<
-Don't use games which are only playable by elitist players.
-Know the game! Does it have secrets which are also worthy as goals? Think about everything that could be worth being a goal and would be fun to play.
So if you want to submit goals, pls send me a PM on Twitch in this format:
Category / Size / Game / Goal name / "My time"
For example:
Needle / Short / I wanna be the Fidelity / Reach save 7/ 12:34 (No idea if that's a legit goal
)
I hope I could hype you a bit with this annoucement and hopefully you guys will send me muchooo goals
So thank you for reading so far and have a nice day!
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