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Title: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Stinkycheeseone890 on April 23, 2014, 03:58:47 AM
So you people can stop being confused all the time! I have created (with the help of a few others) an index of the jumps we have given names. You can look at it, and learn exactly what jump is what, as these are the most common jumps in all of fangames. If you guys can come up with a jump with a name that I missed, or come up with a name for a jump, and we can all agree on it, I'll add it to the index.

Edit: v0.2 - - - Added "Shuriken", "Super F", "Half-Diamond", "16px (small) gap", "M (again)"

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Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Wolsk on April 23, 2014, 04:11:58 AM
Hooray!
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: OhNoezEinPandy on April 23, 2014, 06:19:50 AM
Isn't that T-Bone upside down?
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Mattisticus on April 23, 2014, 08:45:06 AM
The Shuriken

(https://i.imgur.com/RE2Ir2h.png)
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on April 23, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
Plane is also called an SGGK
Ledge is also called a TAS


Then there is also:
Leehe triple diamond :Kappa:
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Stinkycheeseone890 on April 23, 2014, 04:43:17 PM
Quote from: OhNoezEinPandy on April 23, 2014, 06:19:50 AM
Isn't that T-Bone upside down?
T-Bone spikes can be placed in any combination, really.

Also, does everyone agree on Shuriken? Because that's what I call it, personally.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Wolsk on April 24, 2014, 04:04:12 AM
I think shuriken is a nice name.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on April 24, 2014, 08:00:56 AM
I dub thee Shuriken.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Denferok on April 24, 2014, 10:15:45 AM
You forgot super F

I've also started saying half diamond for these

(https://i.gyazo.com/7c13b158156c999bcc41f2fc37fc5fe4.png)
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Hiddow on April 24, 2014, 11:16:18 AM
The M is also sort of this thing isn't it?

Besides that, uh, looks great
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on April 24, 2014, 03:22:49 PM
You forgot cactus!
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Stinkycheeseone890 on April 24, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
Updated.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on April 24, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/8cb5eed8718a2f329b214d407a3c691d.png)

Probably not too common, but heck.

Short-Cancel F is what I call it.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Kinata on April 25, 2014, 01:17:29 AM
Some jumps that have become common in needle games. And I agree with Inferno's last post, what most of us call the "mini F."

(https://imageshack.com/a/img838/227/lf8s.jpg)

(https://imageshack.com/a/img842/7011/ycu1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on April 25, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
Today I was bored during classes because we practically did nothing. So, I compiled a list of some common jumps and named them what made sense to me, although they could already have a name.


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Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Stinkycheeseone890 on April 25, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
I'm talking about jumps that don't just appear in needle games. Jumps that appear in any type of game are what I'm going for. (Although some of those are good)
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Hectorpaddy on April 25, 2014, 09:17:13 PM
Quote from: Kinata on April 25, 2014, 01:17:29 AM
Some jumps that have become common in needle games. And I agree with Inferno's last post, what most of us call the "mini F."

(https://imageshack.com/a/img838/227/lf8s.jpg)

(https://imageshack.com/a/img842/7011/ycu1.jpg)

I've never heard anyone say double block diamond, only ceiling double diamond or roof double diamond. A double invert is pointless because it's just literally 2 inverts in a row. Your triple diamond is meh because there are a lot of possible heights and I doubt that a 4.5 is either common nor needs a name because you literally just call the jump the jump (in contrast to the 16px gap you can actually see that it's 4.5 blocks without having any knowledge in pixels).
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Kinata on April 26, 2014, 01:46:04 AM
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I've never heard anyone say double block diamond, only ceiling double diamond or roof double diamond.

Ya, you're right, ceiling double diamond is what people usually call it.

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A double invert is pointless because it's just literally 2 inverts in a row.

I see what you're saying, but I think the jump is common enough that its existence should be acknowledged. Like, there isn't one  universally accepted form for a double corner, but the double invert is a specific and rather common position (well, in needle games, probably not in the games most people play, though many people would probably be curious about the hardest common positions anyway) that comes up relatively often in discussion.

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Your triple diamond is meh because there are a lot of possible heights

Ok, then erase the 40 px. The point of that was to emphasize that, in its most common form, the triple diamond is raised a little, though I suppose that's clear from the positioning of the block in the image. The triple diamond isn't necessarily a common position anyway, though since the diamond and double diamond are included, not including the triple diamond suggests that it is impossible or never used.

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(in contrast to the 16px gap you can actually see that it's 4.5 blocks without having any knowledge in pixels).

Good point. I mentioned the 4.5 block jump because 16 px gap was included, but yeah, there's a clear difference in how much prior knowledge is required to understand the terminology.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Wolsk on April 26, 2014, 02:25:00 AM
Quote from: infern0man1 on April 25, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
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I like this more as a "bubble." :3
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Stinkycheeseone890 on April 26, 2014, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: Wolsk on April 26, 2014, 02:25:00 AM
Quote from: infern0man1 on April 25, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
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I like this more as a "bubble." :3
I feel, if anything, that should be inverted hourglass, and the other one which you (infernoman) labelled inverted hourglass, should be hourglass. Because of their shapes.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Denferok on April 26, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
why not just call the tbone vortex just vortex?
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: ethinthenougathorn on April 26, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
what about that combination jump of plane and corner? is there a name for that?
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Zero-G on April 26, 2014, 08:32:15 PM
Quote from: Denferok on April 26, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
why not just call the tbone vortex just vortex?

^this
like (T-bone) vortex

and you should add
 invert / natto
becuz jap. like sggk
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Wolsk on April 27, 2014, 05:37:35 AM
I think the roofed double diamond should be added, but a triple diamond really isn't necessary.  Seeing a single gate, people know it's a gate.  Seeing two gates, people know it's a diamond.  Having a double diamond on there is really only so you can tell what a third gate would be, and then anything after that is just a bigger number.  There's no sense in adding a triple diamond because there can be an infinite number of diamonds if it has infinite jump or water or something.

For this reason, a double invert would make sense being added, but I can't imagine people not knowing what a double invert looks like if they know what a single invert looks like.

A "Short-Cancel F" seems unnecessary to me because it's SO uncommon and can be explained with existing terms.

Of the other ones infern0 mentioned:
"U" should be added with the name "V" instead.
I like the "A" jump.
I also like the "Open Gate."
Everything else seems unnecessary.

And yeah, calling the "T-Bone Vortex" just a "Vortex" would prolly be good.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Sephalos on April 27, 2014, 06:43:22 AM
This is a Leehe Jump
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Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Hectorpaddy on April 27, 2014, 08:08:13 AM
Quote from: Wolsk on April 27, 2014, 05:37:35 AM



Of the other ones infern0 mentioned:
"U" should be added with the name "V" instead.
I like the "A" jump.
I also like the "Open Gate."
Everything else seems unnecessary.


I personally dislike calling jumps like letters (a single one like the M is fine by me) but that's just my opinion and not really neccessary. I think if we added the open gate there would be way too many really easy jumps that are just as common as this. This jump is hardly important imo and I never see anyone die to it.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: ethinthenougathorn on April 27, 2014, 08:26:11 AM
Quote from: Sephalos on April 27, 2014, 06:43:22 AM
This is a Leehe Jump
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i can completely agree on that name :D
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Hectorpaddy on April 27, 2014, 08:55:43 AM
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Idk how to call this but I see it quite a lot.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on April 27, 2014, 08:56:14 AM
Quote from: Sephalos on April 27, 2014, 06:43:22 AM
This is a Leehe Jump
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more like the hiddow jump
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Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Swordslinger on April 27, 2014, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: Hectorpaddy on April 27, 2014, 08:55:43 AM
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Idk how to call this but I see it quite a lot.

I see that one a lot too, it does not look like an object i would find around my house or something, i don't know what the fuck that is :(
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Kinata on April 27, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
Quote from: Swordslinger on April 27, 2014, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: Hectorpaddy on April 27, 2014, 08:55:43 AM
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Idk how to call this but I see it quite a lot.

I see that one a lot too, it does not look like an object i would find around my house or something, i don't know what the fuck that is :(

Maybe a caret jump (since it looks like the caret symbol ^)? Or a chevron jump? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chevron_demo.svg
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: conlycameobasher on May 04, 2014, 04:18:36 PM
Hey, I can art too!  :atkHappy:

(https://i.imgur.com/uDJutXg.png)      (https://i.imgur.com/MW0Qyg2.png)

Sorry if dimensions aren't right/my overall shitty art ability. Two neat jumps in Uhuhu Spike and maybe other games, needle or otherwise. Dunno if there are better names than these, but YAAAY I'm contributing!  :atkHappy:
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on May 04, 2014, 04:41:58 PM
Palm tree is a good idea, but I've seen it only once so it really isn't that common. Same with Crazy Spike.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Guitarsage on May 04, 2014, 10:10:49 PM
I would like to petition for a choke version of every one of the jumps here :Kappa:
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Kefit on May 08, 2014, 01:25:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wEJU33k.png)

Some people call these 9 Jumps now thanks to Kamilia 3, but I've always called them Fang Jumps in my head.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: ShutUpNerd on May 08, 2014, 07:37:32 AM
Quote from: Kefit on May 08, 2014, 01:25:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wEJU33k.png)

Some people call these 9 Jumps now thanks to Kamilia 3, but I've always called them Fang Jumps in my head.

Nein jump is the best one I've heard
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Zero-G on May 08, 2014, 11:07:51 AM
(httpss://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgZaHR0cDovL3B1dS5zaC9kLzhFN3hhLnBuZxSAChTMBgAWABIA&s=P5nRkhfAxlUQ7ZaJzSz1JSdbIRbvzZSK4mcCpTZvZFg)

source: @REXilefX from twitter
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Kinata on May 08, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
The M is upside down. That just looks like two diagonals.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Mattisticus on May 08, 2014, 12:40:35 PM
Also, I don't think anyone posted a proper T-bone yet.

https://gyazo.com/278c3562a988b3758816fd12dc6c1b13
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Hectorpaddy on May 08, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: infern0man1 on May 04, 2014, 04:41:58 PM
Palm tree is a good idea, but I've seen it only once so it really isn't that common. Same with Crazy Spike.
just like you said, they're not common
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: REXilef on May 09, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
I just wanted to add my picture and i see, it was already added, thanks Zero.
When I'm bored again, i'll add more jumps and change the M-Jump(  :FailFish: ).
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Guitarsage on June 05, 2014, 08:06:31 PM
What about a pyramid jump? https://imgur.com/eZqzMLw
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Wolsk on June 07, 2014, 02:50:38 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/55d978932b3a3fd576e2a135ba552ddd.png)

I'm not sure what to call the two on the left.  I was thinking a "side gate" or something.  It's very common (including when it is next to a wall), and people seem to refer to it often and can only describe it based on its location.

The other two I saw someone asking about, and I couldn't think of a name at the time.  I think "quint" would be a good name for those.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: LoLGamer CCC on June 09, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
very goog drawing skills
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on June 10, 2014, 08:03:29 AM
Quote from: Kinata on April 27, 2014, 02:18:17 PM
Quote from: Swordslinger on April 27, 2014, 01:40:42 PM
Quote from: Hectorpaddy on April 27, 2014, 08:55:43 AM
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Idk how to call this but I see it quite a lot.

I see that one a lot too, it does not look like an object i would find around my house or something, i don't know what the fuck that is :(

Maybe a caret jump (since it looks like the caret symbol ^)? Or a chevron jump? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chevron_demo.svg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chevron_demo.svg)

I +1 for caret jump.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: pieceofcheese87 on July 07, 2014, 08:54:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/793plJG.png)
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on July 07, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
Guess you weren't around on Skype to witness Lemon's 4 downward planes, eh?
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: REBAG on July 07, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
Quote from: infern0man1 on July 07, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
Guess you weren't around on Skype to witness Lemon's 4 downward planes, eh?
WAIT WHAT!
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: infern0man1 on July 08, 2014, 07:43:02 PM
Quote from: REBAG on July 07, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
Quote from: infern0man1 on July 07, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
Guess you weren't around on Skype to witness Lemon's 4 downward planes, eh?
WAIT WHAT!



[1/20/2014 8:45:43 PM] Lemonxreaper: https://gyazo.com/2e969081f74ae3b50146c8ca1a27768c
tried my best
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: REBAG on July 08, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
Quote from: infern0man1 on July 08, 2014, 07:43:02 PM
Quote from: REBAG on July 07, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
Quote from: infern0man1 on July 07, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
Guess you weren't around on Skype to witness Lemon's 4 downward planes, eh?
WAIT WHAT!



[1/20/2014 8:45:43 PM] Lemonxreaper: https://gyazo.com/2e969081f74ae3b50146c8ca1a27768c
tried my best
Are those supposed to be plane's?
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: JGBMaster on July 09, 2014, 05:06:15 AM
Why don't we call the jumps as the game that has especially lots of it or the first games where they appeared?
For example the ledge jump aka TAS jump. It doesn't make any sense because TAS means a completely different thing but it appeared a lot in I wanna be the TAS and people call it like this. For example, I'd rename Palm Tree (I'm already fine with Palm Tree but idk, it's just an example) for "uhuhu jump". I think this way people would agree with the jumps' names and it would be easier to remember them.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Hectorpaddy on July 09, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: JGBMaster on July 09, 2014, 05:06:15 AM
Why don't we call the jumps as the game that has especially lots of it or the first games where they appeared?
For example the ledge jump aka TAS jump. It doesn't make any sense because TAS means a completely different thing but it appeared a lot in I wanna be the TAS and people call it like this. For example, I'd rename Palm Tree (I'm already fine with Palm Tree but idk, it's just an example) for "uhuhu jump". I think this way people would agree with the jumps' names and it would be easier to remember them.
It's a logical idea but it sounds really boring, also for most actually common jumps (not like "palm tree") it's hard to tell where they appeared first.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Mannyg2011 on January 05, 2015, 04:50:12 AM
https://puu.sh/e66Ut/9bd7091e13.png
And
https://puu.sh/e67Tv/6f7bfae712.png

Made by BrainSlug :Kappa:

In all seriousness, I made the screens in RMJ and then Sudnep used photoshop to help color them. I later used gimp to fix M-Jump since I made it wrong but for the most part, it was all Sudnep with coloring. Hope this helps out :D
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: SandboxMagician on January 06, 2015, 03:07:21 AM
https://imgur.com/wLeoXa3

platform jump? idk if too obvious for this list or not
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Cortex on January 14, 2015, 08:22:50 PM
As Den called it, this is Charlie.

(https://i.imgur.com/4IyBd2t.png)

 :Kappa:
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Wolsk on January 15, 2015, 01:20:18 AM
That's already called a corner plane.
Title: Re: The Index of Common Jump Names
Post by: Mannyg2011 on July 11, 2015, 07:56:34 PM
I updated the jumps a bit more and here the new list https://puu.sh/iVMLB/abdb8342da.png If there anymore jumps that needs to be added please let me know and I can add them. Thank you :D