Introducing Delicious-Fruit.com!

[tehjman1993]

Also, where did all the reviews go, and how exactly do you request creator status?

Sorry, reviews were glitchy for a couple of minutes while the code changes loaded in production. Everything's been ironed out now!

To request ownership of a game, you need to report the game and ask for ownership. Also, if it's not 100% obvious that your delfruit account is the owner, you'll need to provide proof or otherwise contact an admin directly outside of the site so we can verify that you are the creator (twitch whispers, skype pms, forum pms, etc all work great)

Also, credit card numbers, social security numbers, and passports work great!

Just kidding don't actually do that

As a side note: For games with multiple creators, designate one as the liaison on del-fruit to talk about the game if requesting ownership. At this time, more than one creator will not work per game. Thanks!

[Kyir]

Thanks for this feature! It's nice to not have important notes not lost in the muddle of things (I took this opportunity to actually add important notes.)

[WetWookie]

I'd like to recommend that a review count for +10% weight toward the average ratings for each Like they have. (And maybe a disagree button for -10%?) This might help provide more accurate ratings for games with fewer reviews since it's easier for people to indicate their thoughts on a game by liking the reviews that they agree with.

[pieceofcheese87]

I'd like to recommend that a review count for +10% weight toward the average ratings for each Like they have. (And maybe a disagree button for -10%?) This might help provide more accurate ratings for games with fewer reviews since it's easier for people to indicate their thoughts on a game by liking the reviews that they agree with.

TJ has stressed that they will never add a dislike feature.

[tehjman1993]

I'd like to recommend that a review count for +10% weight toward the average ratings for each Like they have. (And maybe a disagree button for -10%?) This might help provide more accurate ratings for games with fewer reviews since it's easier for people to indicate their thoughts on a game by liking the reviews that they agree with.

This, unfortunately, leads to a "mob" mentality on certain games that would only further skew the rating average.

For example, let's say Cultured 2 came out tomorrow. Let's also suppose that a user didn't enjoy it much, so that user gave it a 5/10. All of a sudden that user is hit with -5 from the guys who support (or even made) the game, so now that user's review carries very little weight. Conversely, if another user gave it a 10/10, and was given +5 for supporting the game from other users/creators, then this has entirely too much positive weight to it. The 5/10 score would now barely touch the weight of the 10/10. The average between these two, at this example, would be something around 9~9.5/10, which is entirely unfair.

Del-Fruit is relying on the fact that the community will become involved and review the game. After roughly 15 reviews, we're looking at an accurate average rating for a game, based on the community. So while 1 or 2 reviews may swing wildly in one direction or the other, they are effectively reduced to null when a large majority of the reviews are giving scores in the "middle ground" of the extremes. While an 'average' isn't a great measure of opinion for only 4 reviews, it certainly has its use when there are numerous.

To sum it up, we will never add a weighting feature, or a dislike feature. The 'like' feature that is currently on the site is meant as a way to show satisfaction after reading a review - whether you agreed with it, or just thought it was funny. It has, and will always have, no effect on the way the scores are calculated. If we feel that a weight system is necessary, it will be a site-wide "hidden" weight system that would apply to every user instantly. This is not being considered at this time, however.

If you have any other suggestions, please feel free to leave them here! Del-Fruit is just about 1 year old from this date, neat!

[Kyir]

Instead of recommending systems to try and get the most "accurate" rating (whatever that means,) it's probably best to just acknowledge that there are always going to be instances of scores diverging wildly from what we each consider to be reasonable. It's everyone's prerogative to score according to their own metrics, just as everyone can discount any of those scores as being unfounded in the reality of the game. People gripe about my scores a lot for instance, but my impressions of my own games are necessarily going to be different than the people who did not go through the experience of creating them. Similarly, I try not to judge (most) scores of my games, since I never had the experience of playing them starting from a blank slate.

I think the best we (as users of the site, not designers) can do to make the scores representative of the games is giving detailed comments including the reasoning behind the scores they're attached to. Saying "this is bad" is as meaningless as "this is good" when it comes to really evaluating the quality of games.

And as always, thank you TJ, Klazen, and everyone else involved for making an excellent resource.

[tehjman1993]

Instead of recommending systems to try and get the most "accurate" rating (whatever that means,) it's probably best to just acknowledge that there are always going to be instances of scores diverging wildly from what we each consider to be reasonable. It's everyone's prerogative to score according to their own metrics, just as everyone can discount any of those scores as being unfounded in the reality of the game. People gripe about my scores a lot for instance, but my impressions of my own games are necessarily going to be different than the people who did not go through the experience of creating them. Similarly, I try not to judge (most) scores of my games, since I never had the experience of playing them starting from a blank slate.

I think the best we (as users of the site, not designers) can to do make the scores representative of the games is giving detailed comments including the reasoning behind the scores they're attached to. Saying "this is bad" is as meaningless as "this is good" when it comes to really evaluating the quality of games.

And as always, thank you TJ, Klazen, and everyone else involved for making an excellent resource.

This is great advice for everyone that uses the site. I also tend to just "ignore" bad reviews of a game that I thought were good, and imagine what the average would be if that score did not exist. This is what many users must do across all review sites, not just del-fruit. Eliminating "extreme" scores helps everyone better understand the logic behind a game's score, and well-written reviews go hand-in-hand with site growth, development, and understanding.

[tehjman1993]

Hello Del-Fruiters!

We have a very special announcement for Del-Fruit ... we're 1 year old! Woohoo!

So what does this mean? Absolutely nothing! Both Klazen and I wanted to reflect on our progress over the year from the first public release on February 8th, 2015 up until today. It has been one heck of a ride, with many adjustments and changes added to the site. Starting with just a bare-bones review site structure, we have added all sorts of goodies for our users, such as User Pages, Speedrun.com integration, Ownership Claims, and more! We couldn't of been this successful without you, community! Thanks for making Del-Fruit a major staple in the fangame community at large, and we hope to continue to promote the growth and development of fangames and its players everywhere.

Speaking of players everywhere, did you know that there's a large eastern community following on Del-Fruit? With that being said, let's jump into some statistics we've pulled from other the past year, courtesy of Google Analytics! (Note: Data is not 100% accurate, as Google Analytics was not active until mid-May of 2015 ... sorry!)

Nearly 12,000 users are from the U.S. alone! Wow! This is the highest number of users on our site, but in 2nd is a surprising Japan with nearly 5,000 users! The next 3 highest include Russia, South Korea, and Canada, all with about 2,000 users a piece. Neat!

The home page has been uniquely opened over 66,000 times! So what individual game pages have the highest unique pageviews? Take a guess!
The highest single-game unique pageview count belongs to "I wanna take the timemachine" with over 4,000 views!
Following closely is our own community's "I wanna kill the guy" also with just over 4,000 unique views! Wow!
In 3rd we have the predictable "I wanna kill the Kamilia 3" with just under 4,000 unique views. Neat!

Del-Fruit's largest day ever was on August 21st, 2015 with 7,461 page views and peaking at 604 new users 2 days later on August 23rd! Holy cannoli!

Almost 85% of our users use desktop as their go-to for browsing del-fruit! Can't download on mobile, folks!

On average, our users are looking through 6 pages per session, with an average session length of just over 5 minutes! That's longer than most porn sites! In addition to this, each unique user averages 1.5 sessions on the site - that's just about 50% of our visitors returning to the site at some point later on after their first visit! Neat!

An overwhelming majority of our users (over 32,000) use Chrome as their browsing choice, while Firefox and IE (DansGame) trail behind in 2nd and 3rd, respectively.

So where are all of our visitors coming from? It turns out that a overwhelming majority comes from Google (or another search engine) itself! Typing Delicious-Fruit sure seems to bring in the new guys! But, in case you really wanted to know what streamer is "raiding" us the most ...
Over 600 users have come from Bananasaurus_Rex's channel!
Almost 450 users have come from Cirno_TV's channel, the K2/K3 Mountain Challenge, and YoYoYoDude1's channel! Wow!
Almost 400 users have come from ParagusRants' channel and Stinkycheeseone890's! Now that's what I call fangaming!
...oh, and some reddit link fetched another 300+ users in a /r/Games post! ...unexpected, but neat!

That's all the data I can spew out for now! We hope this was a great insight into the massive growth of our site, and how important Del-Fruit has become as the go-to source for community opinions and ratings on all things fangames. We're working on new features for the near future to better include other community members (such as Japan!), so stay tuned!

Thanks,
TJ&Klazen

[3-headed monkey]

Congratulations Del-Fruit guys, it's a great site and I use it all the time. Thanks for all your efforts.

[infern0man1]

I'm curious as to what the least-visited page is, assuming there is a single one (not including pages for games without DL links, I know I've added at least a hundred that no one knows exist on the site rn OpieOP)..

[tehjman1993]

I'm curious as to what the least-visited page is, assuming there is a single one (not including pages for games without DL links, I know I've added at least a hundred that no one knows exist on the site rn OpieOP)..

Actually, most of the least-visited pages are private testing URLs that we use for the site, as well as admin-related URLs!

[tehjman1993]

Friendly heads up:

On February 11th, from 5:00 PM GMT to 5:00 AM GMT, Del-Fruit will be undergoing a maintenance phase to "upgrade" our webhost. During this time, you may not be able to access the site. This is intended, and should be fully up and operational by the end of the maintenance period.

With a new webhost, we can assume more direct control over any backend problems that could potentially occur on the site. More access means more problem solving, which translates to less reliance on the webhost and more reliance on our own. It also allows for more features, such as internationalization, something not possible with the old webhost.

Sorry for the inconvenience!
TJ&Klazen

[infern0man1]

Another thing I was a little curious about; is it at all possible for a spambot to sign up and post a review?

[Starz0r]

Another thing I was a little curious about; is it at all possible for a spambot to sign up and post a review?

Been trying to get Klazen to use re:Captcha 2.0 :^)

Honestly though, the possibility of it happening it really slim, there would have to be a coordinated attack, with bots programmed manually to navigate the site. So I would say No, it isn't possible.

[tehjman1993]

Another thing I was a little curious about; is it at all possible for a spambot to sign up and post a review?

We have not had any bot sign up (to my knowledge), let alone post any review. We see all account creations on the backend of the site.