Hey could someone help me finish up this align info-graphic I made

[thebmxbandit11]

Edit: I changed corner 2

added the information I received from kefit, if anyone sees anything wrong with the info feel free to comment
changed a few with new info from Hector Patty

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if someone can quote this with the proper aligns filled out that would be awesome


going left to right, top to bottom

Corner 1 - best: good:  bad:

Corner 2 - best: good:  bad:

Invert - best: good:  bad:

Double Diamond - best: good:  bad:

Ceiling Double Diamond - best: good:  bad:

T-bone(walkoff) - best: good:  bad:

Upwards Plane - best: good:  bad:

Downwards Plane - best: good:  bad:

Ledge Grab - best: good:  bad:

Single Jump Diamond - best: good:  bad:

not sure what this jump is called jump - best: good:  bad:

Also if anyone would thinks some of these jumps should be removed due to them not needing an align or being uncommon, along with any jumps you'd like to see added please feel free to suggest anything because I want it to be as useful as possible

Thanks!

[SmokeyCR]

if someone can quote this with the proper aligns filled out that would be awesome


going left to right, top to bottom

Corner 1 - good:  bad:

Corner 2 - good:  bad:

Invert - good:  bad:

Double Diamond - good:  bad:

Ceiling Double Diamond - good:  bad:

T-bone(walkoff) - good:  bad:

Upwards Plane - good:  bad:

Downwards Plane - good:  bad:

Ledge Grab - good:  bad:

Single Jump Diamond - good:  bad:

not sure what this jump is called jump - good:  bad:

Also if anyone would thinks some of these jumps should be removed due to them not needing an align or being uncommon, along with any jumps you'd like to see added please feel free to suggest anything because I want it to be as useful as possible

Thanks!

Well, I never needed aligns for Corner 1 and Corner 2. Same for T-Bone and Invert. For the Upwards Plane, I always use the block right below the lower spike (I think that's equivalent to the 3rd Align, but I'm not sure).
I think this list needs a Corner 3, though (Basically, it's Corner 1, but with the Kid on the opposite side). I always need aligns for this one, but I don't remember what align do I use, so I'll leave it as a suggestion. Good luck with your list 

[thebmxbandit11]

Well, I never needed aligns for Corner 1 and Corner 2. Same for T-Bone and Invert. For the Upwards Plane, I always use the block right below the lower spike (I think that's equivalent to the 3rd Align, but I'm not sure).
I think this list needs a Corner 3, though (Basically, it's Corner 1, but with the Kid on the opposite side). I always need aligns for this one, but I don't remember what align do I use, so I'll leave it as a suggestion. Good luck with your list 

The T-Bone is for the walkoff align, as in you can walk off and then use your second jump after passing under the top spike.  Not sure about the invert or if any aligns give you 1 more frame of leeway.

I did update the info-graphic with the corner you suggested.


Lastly if someone does know the aligns could you please format the reply like this:

Corner 1 - good: 2, 3  bad: 1

Corner 2 - good: 2 bad: 1, 2

and so on.
(note: the above aligns are randomly chosen and probably not correct I was just giving a format example)

[SmokeyCR]

Well, I never needed aligns for Corner 1 and Corner 2. Same for T-Bone and Invert. For the Upwards Plane, I always use the block right below the lower spike (I think that's equivalent to the 3rd Align, but I'm not sure).
I think this list needs a Corner 3, though (Basically, it's Corner 1, but with the Kid on the opposite side). I always need aligns for this one, but I don't remember what align do I use, so I'll leave it as a suggestion. Good luck with your list 

The T-Bone is for the walkoff align, as in you can walk off and then use your second jump after passing under the top spike.  Not sure about the invert or if any aligns give you 1 more frame of leeway.

I did update the info-graphic with the corner you suggested.


Lastly if someone does know the aligns could you please format the reply like this:

Corner 1 - good: 2, 3  bad: 1

Corner 2 - good: 2 bad: 1, 2

and so on.
(note: the above aligns are randomly chosen and probably not correct I was just giving a format example)

Oh, didn't see the walk-off, forget about the T-Bone then. I'm not sure about the Inverts, since I never pay attention to my align on these, but I'm sure about Corner 1:

Corner 1 - Good: 1, 2, 3; Bad: None

There isn't much difference about what align do you use on these, so either is fine. Both are more of a matter of how are you jumping, rather than which align are you using. Also:

Upwards Plane - Good: 3; Bad: 1, 2
Corner 2 - Good: 2; Bad: 1, 3

@Editing with the new Corner 2, just found the right align.

[thebmxbandit11]

Oh, didn't see the walk-off, forget about the T-Bone then. I'm not sure about the Inverts, since I never pay attention to my align on these, but I'm sure about Corner 1:

Corner 1 - Good: 1, 2, 3; Bad: None

There isn't much difference about what align do you use on these, so either is fine. Both are more of a matter of how are you jumping, rather than which align are you using. Also:

Upwards Plane - Good: 3; Bad: 1, 2
Corner 2 - Good: 2; Bad: 1, 3

@Editing with the new Corner 2, just found the right align.

Just found this https://www.twitch.tv/denferok/v/3644879 which would mean Corner 1 - good: 2 bad: 1,3

No clue what is really correct though.

[SmokeyCR]

Oh, didn't see the walk-off, forget about the T-Bone then. I'm not sure about the Inverts, since I never pay attention to my align on these, but I'm sure about Corner 1:

Corner 1 - Good: 1, 2, 3; Bad: None

There isn't much difference about what align do you use on these, so either is fine. Both are more of a matter of how are you jumping, rather than which align are you using. Also:

Upwards Plane - Good: 3; Bad: 1, 2
Corner 2 - Good: 2; Bad: 1, 3

@Editing with the new Corner 2, just found the right align.

Just found this https://www.twitch.tv/denferok/v/3644879 which would mean Corner 1 - good: 2 bad: 1,3

No clue what is really correct though.

Well, if that's the case, then 2 might be the best align, but that doesn't mean that 1 and 3 are bad aligns. Something like:
Corner 1 - Good: 2; Bad: None
Would be better, since 1 and 3 are pretty neutral (It's still not hard to get through with them, even if they aren't the best, so I don't think they should be called "Bad" aligns. A bad align is an align that makes your jump impossible, or close to impossible).

[thebmxbandit11]

okay I now have the info filled in, if anything can be improved or is incorrect I can update it :p

[SmokeyCR]

Align 3 never worked with me on Corner 2  (Align 1 still doesn't sound like a bad align for Corner 1, but whatever)
Aside from that, it seems good ♫ (I can confirm the Ledge and the T-Bone, just checked them a couple minutes ago)

[Wolsk]

It looks good, though I'm not sure about the invert and last jump (double side gate?).
If Kefit gave you that info, however, I'm sure it's right because he's a nerd.
I really like the graphic you made, by the way.
I'll def use it as part of my planned video alien guide if that's okay

Smokey, it sounds like you don't really understand aliens very well. :v

[thebmxbandit11]

I'll def use it as part of my planned video alien guide if that's okay

yea anyone can feel free to use it however they want.  Kefit said that he wants to chat about it first though for possible changes and maybe an expansion.

[pjonker]

Wow this is really usefull for me.
I only knew about good aligns for certain jumps so this is a real improvement.
Thank you for making this

[SmokeyCR]

It looks good, though I'm not sure about the invert and last jump (double side gate?).
If Kefit gave you that info, however, I'm sure it's right because he's a nerd.
I really like the graphic you made, by the way.
I'll def use it as part of my planned video alien guide if that's okay

Smokey, it sounds like you don't really understand aliens very well. :v

Well, I don't use them very often, but I played enough needle games to know the aligns that work with me, and the ones that don't (For most jumps, at least. I suck at downwards planes). It's not my fault if my aligns are different from everyone else's

*Wait, aliens? 

[infern0man1]

Later I may make an extra sheet showing the aligns for blocks offeset by 16 and 8 pixels so people don't get confused on games using 8x8 grids.