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Title: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(FINAL VER - 03/07/2013)
Post by: HAEGOE on January 27, 2014, 01:24:42 AM
httpss://skydrive.live.com/?cid=F0EEACB9016C73B1&id=F0EEACB9016C73B1%21126

You can download it there.

It's my new fangame and reason why OOPARTS 1.5 ver is endlessly postponed.
C. Z. Outrageousness Stands For Contemporary Zenith Outrageousness.

It contains 8 stages(including boss rush), and 8 boss(bosses with multiple phases are counted as 1)
It's Sometimes Gimmicky, Sometimes Spiky, Sometimes Trappy kind of game.

It has 4 difficulties, name and policy of each difficulties are same with ooparts(Simple with multiple save in 1 room, Regular with 1 save per 1 room, Difficult with 1 save before and after the boss, and NOT FOR HUMANS with no save at all)

Caution : RNG MADNESS. I modified and nerfed the random attacks to make it need less luck, but they're still RNG, hard, and sometimes just Crappy, So you'll need to deal with it.

Bug reports welcome

Screenshot
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1.1ver update log
- Default difficulty changed to 'Simple'
- Kid's physics changed(similar to Yuuutu version)
- Stage 2 tileset changed(so that you can find out it's all 32X32)
- Stage 4 Spike array changed(in the underwater climbing up section)
- Stage 5 underwater array modified(to compensate for physics change)
- Savepoint(wuss) added in some areas to compensate for physics change
- Savepoint(normal) added in some of the areas because people were suffering more than I expected.. sorry

Final ver update log
- You can press F12 to turn on/off the scream. also,
- Level indicator added. press F11 to turn on/off.
- Hsien-Ko's HP reduced(150->75)
 - Damage to her is also reduced(2->1)
 - and so did healing her(1->0.5)
 - Basically no difference, to make it more clear how to damage her
- You can't hear the Bullet hitting sound when your bullets are healing Hsien-ko.
- Goenitz's 5 whirlwind attack changed(3 warning signs appear first, 2 appear right after 3 bursts)
- Yu & Rei's fire disappears when they're down(red gone when yu is down and blue when rei is down)
- you can see how many boss points you need to gather
- on second phase of final battle, bosses will not go up anymore
- objects in final phase has been moved a little so you can see the whole text about them
- Savepoint location changed, removed unnecessary one(no hazard at all until next savepoint), added where needed to make it less boring
- if bullet hits the boss, a yellow effect will be showed.

you can download it there

Edit : There's a bug which key configuration resets when you reset or turn if off an back on. sorry. I don't know why this is happening. If you know why, please help me.

p.s. How Can I make a kid Icon Here?

Edit again : New Policy about Savepoints (Still,, Only Difference is the Regular one)

Simple - Savepoints Wherever I think you need
Regular - 1~3(Usually 1) savepoints. If you see more than 2 saves that means it's either next room has the Boss or It's too difficult to  go with 1 save
Difficult - Savepoints Before And After Boss
NOT FOR HUMANS : NO SAVEPOINTS AT ALL(AND NOBODY PLAYS THIS EXCEPT SOMEONE WITH TAS)
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: OhNoezEinPandy on January 27, 2014, 08:56:57 AM
I started this game on Regular because I thought it would be the default option. I just entered screen 2 of the 2nd area:

The first area has many repeating jumps and is already quite painful for a regular player because you get boobie trapped at the end of nearly every screen.

The second area has some problems with the ceiling and the tileset. You bonk your head everytime on the supposed 16x16 pixel ceiling because it is actually 32x32. The tileset is very misleading here.

I'll give it another try if I have the time. Non-restarting and non-standard tileset is atleast a big plus.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: HAEGOE on January 27, 2014, 09:05:24 AM
Actually it has 'simple' difficulty. if you're new to this game, I recommend this. Maybe I should place Simple for default... do I?

And for the second stage, I'll rearrange the tileset so it will be less misleading. Sorry. I should have placed it more carefully..

Later part of the Stage includes some Default tileset and color-swapped version of them. I'm afraid you will have to go through with it.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: Neos33 on January 27, 2014, 10:10:32 AM
looks very cool
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: Wolsk on January 27, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
It looks nice.  I will play it soon and then post back here.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: Ario147 on January 27, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
BEST GAME EVER, I LOVE STAGE 4, BEST GIMMICK EVER <3
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: Paragus on January 27, 2014, 07:35:39 PM
The screen with the alternating colors and the water with the spikes....

I don't even know man.   How about a save point in that hole in the wall that goes nowhere instead of forcing me to do a really long and tedious screen with horrible water mechanics.  Let me know if you change it or add a save or something, it's just too damn cancer for me to tolerate it for a second longer.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: Zurai on January 27, 2014, 07:40:51 PM
Sooo, I played to stage 5 and I couldn't handle it anymore.

The last screen of stage 4 is really tedious. Always when you die, you have to wait for the timer to switch the color which is super annoying.

Stage 5 has a nice idea, but I stopped at the third screen. The engine you choose makes it unreasonable hard and the missing savepoints are not helping to keep the fun up.
If you intended to create such hard and long platforming, keep it like this. Otherwise I would add some savepoints to some of the screens.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: HAEGOE on January 27, 2014, 08:06:57 PM
If you don't like the water mechanics, I'll do what I can do. Do I have to make the yuuutu version of the water?
and about stage 4, I'll rearrange water to wait less time(making the first spike blue so that you can pass the first one without waiting)

And if you're suffering from 1 save per room, All I can say for now is 'If you're playing regular, try simple first.' The savepoint policy is exactly like ooparts(if you think that's the problem, tell me): multiple in Simple, one for one room in regular, one before and after in difficult, no save in not for humans.

Actually there is a savepoint in hole of the stage 4, It's just a 'wuss' save.

Maybe this is because I didn't made simple as the default difficulty. Sorry for All the trouble and inconvenience.


Edit : I made poll about savepoint policy in Regular and Difficult. I'm not adding more savepoints in simple, Do not ask me that.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: Zurai on January 27, 2014, 08:21:39 PM
Ah I see, didn't now about the Simple mode. I thought regular would be like the medium of every other fangame.

The water is not a big deal, just the waiting time was annoying.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: Swordslinger on January 27, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
Ok so I played the game till stage 5 second screen, now let me make a little pro/con list.

Pros: Good Gimmicks, Good ideas, enjoyable platforming, a fair difficulty selection system, SOME Enjoyable bosses

Cons: Bad Engine (Bad Water Physics and Kid Physics come with this engine), On the last room of stage 4, having to wait 2 seconds at the start of the save to go to go through the first red spike, yea I can't really word that... well.

Honestly it is an enjoyable game, but I am going to tell you the same thing I told Kyir about his game, you might want to consider switching to the Yutuu or Nekeron engine, both engines have the preferred physics to every wannabe that plays these guy games. This is just for future reference however, I know your not going to go back and completely remake the game. I am not trying to offend Yosniper, but I will be 100% honest, his engine is pretty broken.

That's about it.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(Proto Ver)
Post by: HAEGOE on January 27, 2014, 09:40:59 PM
about the engine, I have the yuuutu engine, so I think I can do something about the water, at least.
and I'll modify that room you said so that you don't have to wait for it.

Edit : I did the water, and I think I found out the difference between Yosniper and Yuuutu. I think I can make the kid's jump physics just like Yuuutu version. If that's what you want.

And something else : Vote Now. Only one vote says I need more savepoints in the regular doesn't make me think all of you said so.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(1.1 Ver)
Post by: HAEGOE on January 29, 2014, 02:11:27 AM
1.1 version is up!
I tried to make kid's physics like yuuutu edition for one who's used to that, and if you miss yosniper's physics, I'll do something to switch from yuuutu and yosniper's as you want in the option room.. but that would be big business and expecting that will actually happen won't be such a good idea..
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: Paragus on January 30, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Let's talk about your boss...Hsien-Ko.

This fight isn't working man.   First off the chain attack where he slams the ground is complete horse shit.  The warning time is practically zero, and if you are in the air when he calls it your guaranteed to be dead as you land.  Also it's silly that I can hit the boss anytime except the one time he is standing still channeling that attack.   The color switching idea is good but implemented is an erratic way that kills any possible enjoyment of the gimmick.

That attack near the end where he splits, just pure RNG garbage determines whether you live or die.  Also just like your alst game, you give the bosses way too much HP and force the player to spam or use an autofire script.  Why not just use immunity frames like a normal game so people don't have to destroy their keyboards and wrists trying to kill a boss with inflated HP and mash mechanics.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: Paragus on January 30, 2014, 07:09:52 PM
httpss://imageshack.com/i/nhc5f0p

Please add a save at the beginning of the 3rd row.  Doing this everytime I die i very boring.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageous(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: HAEGOE on January 30, 2014, 11:33:48 PM
Quote from: Paragus on January 30, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Let's talk about your boss...Hsien-Ko.

This fight isn't working man.   First off the chain attack where he slams the ground is complete horse shit.  The warning time is practically zero, and if you are in the air when he calls it your guaranteed to be dead as you land.  Also it's silly that I can hit the boss anytime except the one time he is standing still channeling that attack.   The color switching idea is good but implemented is an erratic way that kills any possible enjoyment of the gimmick.

That attack near the end where he splits, just pure RNG garbage determines whether you live or die.  Also just like your alst game, you give the bosses way too much HP and force the player to spam or use an autofire script.  Why not just use immunity frames like a normal game so people don't have to destroy their keyboards and wrists trying to kill a boss with inflated HP and mash mechanics.
Thank you for your two comments. But there's something you need to know about Hsien-ko.
0(minor thing) : Hsien-ko is female. maybe I just used sprites from Super Gem Fighter version so that her gender was unnoticeable.

1. her boss is that high because you can give her 2 damages under certain condition. So, Her practical hp is 75.
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if you think overall(Not just hers, but others' as well) HP is still too high(except Bowser : you have another way to kill him, use that), I'm trying to do 'double damage, More immunity mode'(technically every boss has immunity time, just short enough to prevent autofire) by toggling F8(So that you can conveniently turn on an off DDI mode.

2. Technically that's just her fake self. She does the same move with her real self, all of which is pointless and harmless(even touching her is safe if she is fake). All she does is making you not easy to find real and fake. she doesn't even get hit (to prevent from her taking all your bullets and never hits the real one). and my original intention was to find the real one and finish her.

3.  About that image there, I'm afraid you need to be patient there. Sorry. All I can do for there is apologizing.


Sorry to ask, has the kid's physics improved?
edit : never mind, I saw your stream and I'll take it as a no. Now What's wrong..
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: Paragus on January 31, 2014, 08:50:30 AM
The water physics seemed a bit better than the previous version and putting the save point in the wall of that room helped a lot.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: HAEGOE on January 31, 2014, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: Paragus on January 31, 2014, 08:50:30 AM
The water physics seemed a bit better than the previous version and putting the save point in the wall of that room helped a lot.
glad to hear that. Tell me more things to improve, and If that's a must(Fatal bug or something like that), I'll do it. If not, I'll give you a hint instead.

and now I've saw you doing stage 6, There's something I must tell you.
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Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: Rylant on February 03, 2014, 09:48:31 PM
Awesome game im on stage 7, had fun through the whole game so far :).
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: HAEGOE on February 08, 2014, 02:55:37 AM
Glad you like it. Sorry I'm late... May I ask, did you make it all now? or... later stages are not good?
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: Rylant on February 08, 2014, 07:37:49 AM
I'm at the last boss i think :o
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: AndresSgarrido on February 09, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
Well, i managed to get at the whirlwind gimmick stage boss, I liked all the previous stages and bosses, but there is something i didnt like at the whirlwind boss.

There is one attack that he summons some whirlwinds right behind you, and if you go right or left just when he summons it.. well you are screwed. I suggest to change that attack or make it more predictable
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: HAEGOE on February 09, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: AndresSgarrido on February 09, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
There is one attack that he summons some whirlwinds right behind you, and if you go right or left just when he summons it.. well you are screwed. I suggest to change that attack or make it more predictable
right behind you? I don't remember making that attack. Do you mean summoning 5 whirlwinds? then you need observe which of them bursts faster. the bursting time is always the same, so once you find out, it won't be so hard.
If you don't mean that, please tell me what do you mean(as detail as possible, so I can find out)
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: AndresSgarrido on February 12, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: HAEGOE on February 09, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: AndresSgarrido on February 09, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
There is one attack that he summons some whirlwinds right behind you, and if you go right or left just when he summons it.. well you are screwed. I suggest to change that attack or make it more predictable
right behind you? I don't remember making that attack. Do you mean summoning 5 whirlwinds? then you need observe which of them bursts faster. the bursting time is always the same, so once you find out, it won't be so hard.
If you don't mean that, please tell me what do you mean(as detail as possible, so I can find out)

Oh, i used the behind word,  instead of "under" , my bad. I mean the attack that he summons 5 whirlwinds right under you, and you are on the middle of them
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: HAEGOE on February 13, 2014, 12:49:01 AM
Oh, ok, then. actually, that 5 whirlwind in a row is always summoned under you and you are always in the center.
It's like this.
00K00 - 0 is nothing(Filled to get the kid in the center), K is kid.
12121 - 2 and 1 is a Warning mark which shows whirlwind will be summoned there. 1 bursts faster than 2. so you'll have to stand on the C part first, wait for B to burst, then leave after B wind is gone and before C wind bursts.
Their bursting delay is always constant(1 = 1 sec, 2 = 2 sec) and there is no rng to kill you in that attack, so if you managed to dodge it the first time, dodging another 5-wind-in-a-row won't be hard.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(1.1 Ver - 01/29/2013)
Post by: HAEGOE on March 07, 2014, 07:57:57 AM
Final Version is up.
you can download it at the first page.
Title: Re: I wanna be the C. Z. Outrageousness(FINAL VER - 03/07/2013)
Post by: Ousho on May 02, 2015, 09:35:30 AM
Decent effort with this game. Well balanced difficulty, especially with the bosses where RNG isn't blatantly unfair, but hard enough to make the fights interesting. I liked the music as well except for in the beginning where it's too loud and not very good. (The theme from Mario was way too obnoxious at that volume, and the track right after was just jarring.)